One Talk: Meeting Up With Writer Jon Cotner

Robert Hirschfield talks to Jon Cotner, coauthor of the revolutionary narrative nonfiction book Ten Walks/Two Talks.

Our meeting during McNally Jackson began with the Ten Walks moment.

Green chairs shrieked opposite the bookstore floor. The store was scheming to receive guests for the well review event, as well as we were intruding. Me with my tape recorder, Jon Cotner with his quiet apology which was heartfelt, not perfunctory, marking him as an outsider in between the tactical barbarians of New York.

Ten Walks/Two Talks was launched during McNally Jackson earlier this year. we am the New York walker, as well as this is the book, largely, about on foot in New York, seeing the vast fragments collapse, careen, brief over, flower with extraordinary women similar to this one:

A Japanese woman wore the bowler hat. The subject was she attractive? done no sense. we was attracted to
her. She needed my gaze as well as we delivered it.

No the single else writes similar to this about New York. we told Cotner to email my homage to his co-author as well as friend, Andy Fitch, in Shanghai, who authored the Ten Walks. The Two Talks were an additional matter. A staccato turf of riffs about place, memory, truth (or put an additional way, the twenty-first century adore poems of dual friends in the form of conversation), the remarkable leaps as well as incongruous breaks, the sentences which go nowhere, leave the reader in mid-air, cut off, lost.

Perhaps the talks appear the bit digressive, Jon conceded, though thats something we wish to preserve. We culled dual talks from the original series of thirty talks. Maybe we would have the more finish knowledge of the talks if we listened to all thirty of them.

The thing about Jon Cotner is which he doesnt demeanour crazy. He looks similar to Frodo in the film chronicle of The Lord of The Rings. He is also! as earn est as Frodo.

Anyone who tells me to review thirty of his talks after we have struggled through only dual is someone we immediately fall in adore with. we am the sucker for the certain kind of innocent single-mindedness, or earnestness. If Cotner were the woman, we would ask for her phone series right then as well as there.

Look, we said, let me give we an example of what we mean. The dual of we have been on foot in Central Park. The dialogue goes similar to this:

A: Here we mount atop Belvedere Castle. How thrilling to strech the edge.

J: It is.

A: Again so most scenes in this play ground conform to Hiroshiges Hundred Famous Views of Edo. At the little indicate we hope, if no the single has, to rediscover those the Edo sites. Most got paved. Pedestrians ought to

J: During Japans rise

A: Or the single became the nasty canal

J: Really?

OK, the reader here is not told by Andy which scenes conform to Hiroshiges work, we said. In fact, he is not told anything about how the dual have been related during all. There is no context as well as no continuity.

Thats partial of the dialogue. So most issues come up, though before long the movement shifts us to something else. We dont wish to emanate the clarity of closure, though the series of openings.

The openings in Two Talks compel readers to let themselves in with their own keys. The authors will not hand out any navigational fixed points.

Wittgenstein once attempted lecturing from notes, as well as pronounced his mouth was filled with corpses, as well as he would never do it again.

I laughed, though Cotner was being not funny. Its only which he seemed as well genteel to traffic in such morbidity.

Do we consider these talks, as the little people say, have an comprehensive quality? he asked me.

Not during all. we couldnt be sure if which disturbed him or not. You guys never stay with any the single thing long enough.

Cotner agreed. Things pierce quic! kly, as someone put it, in between Chinese communication as well as dodging traffic.

Well put.

we am reminded of Emersons quote: The art of adore is skating upon the surfaces. That was the single of our paper principals. We wanted to emanate this verbal aspect along which people could glide.

Along the bookstore surface, the shrieking had stopped, replaced by the restive whispers of people settling in. Cocooned in his intensity, Cotner did not appear to notice. we felt we was sitting with this agreeable, vulnerable zealot bent upon bringing the whole new cultured in to the world of writing.

Can we indicate the single thing, which we demeanour during the walks as an review of city streets as well as parks, as well as the talks essentially as an review of friendship as well as fleeting thoughts?

I dont know during what indicate the adversarial attitude we entered McNallys with dissolved. It was not as if we succumbed to an intellectual meltdown or anything similar to that. But we was able to see which dwelling upon the problematic tools of the book was keeping me from appreciating the originality. These guys were breaking down the tired walls of linear storytelling. They were in essence trying to wobble together an inner as well as outer topography, with all the tender edges exposed.

I dont stop pity most of this with Cotner. Maybe only the little. we didnt wish him to consider we wassuddenly the softie. As we told him, tools of the Two Talks do work (just not enough of them.) Here is an examplestraight surrealism, of the partial which does.

A: we had my first verbal sex knowledge in the tall school parking lot, nonetheless was not um the recipient. Um, this tea, Jon, has started to develop the mace flavor? A confidant sharp flavor? Will we mostly find which nearby the bottom of the cup?

J: It

A: Ive sensed the wooden quality, as well as sharp quality, present not only through my tongue as well as mouth though all down my chest. Thanks for that.

J: Yea h, this tea seems meant, is is: the tea can make we feel kind of wild.

Dustin, McNallys lanky events coordinator, was about to deliver the evenings author. The dual of us motionless we were as well tired to stick around.

I appreciate your honesty, Cotner said. Your critique was helpful.

I didnt know what to say. we am most comparison than Cotner, though we suppose Id have responded reduction graciously.

Out upon Prince Street in Soho, Cotner asked if we could walk together. A explosion of people were talking to their dungeon phones. Cotner began deliberating Montaigne, his judgment of the essay as an experiment, or an attempt.

I noticed myself smiling as he was talking. Not during the incongruity of Montaigne being resurrected upon the Manhattan shopping artery immune to philosophy, though during the elementary wish of on foot with the immature bard determined to try what his American culture automatic him to discard.


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